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I noticed that many of my Platine Verdier's pirates had a problem with the magnetic system. Generally the repulsion force is not adequate and it is necessary to complete it with a ball spindle or any other samarium cobalt magnets on the top of the axel. That situation is boring because some of the customers turn away ignorant they are facing copies and believing that the device is defective, bad designed or bad developed To give a cure, I am going to indicate my pirates how to build magnetic circuits. The problem is that they use an ordirlary steel high carbon tenor. On magnetic point of view that metal is certainly provided with a weak "coercitive field", but too much important, which decreases the field provided by the magnets. The answer consists in using a magnetic alloy of suitable quality, for example TELAR 57 of ARMCO. when the tooling of the part is over, you have to realize a double fire under vacuum to eliminate the last carbon traces. And then, to finish, you can paint. the magnetic circuits or realize a surface processing as "zincage bichromatage" which gives that lovely gilded colour. of course that is really more expensive and complicated than ordinary scrap-iron, but now you don't have any excuse. Good luck pirates J.C. Verdier. |
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HI-FI+Issue 12 Jul/Aug 2001 - Issue 14 Nov/Dec 2001
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Platine Verdier Record Player
and Audiocraft AC4400 Tonearm
by Peter Russell
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Occasionally, just occasionally, one comes across a product which challenges our usual perceptions. Over tune we all become jaded, prisoners of our own history and experience; where the familiar is comfortable and safe and predictable and anything new is a threat, unless it makes our lives easier or more convenient, and where difference is less acceptable than newness. Whilst the pursuit of the new fuels consumerism, radicalism challenges our view of what is familiar. Nowhere is this more true than in the world of hi-fi. "Me-too" products parade in the clothes of progress as newer versions of the old technology are tweaked and given a more polished gloss or more complex functionality Our attention is continually drawn to how unique this or that modification is. Occasionally old technology finds a new application or is revitalised in the light of current knowledge and economic viability. Sometimes a product comes about by using simple but familiar technology and applying it in an unexpected mannes The Verdier turntable is just such a product. Here we are confronted with a turntable that has been around for 20 years with very little alteration; its technical principles are the same, just that some of its components and materials have changed. Mention the Verdier Platine to anyone interested in vinyl and they will respond; ah yes something to do with magnets ...it has a magnetic suspension hasn't it? True, but that is only half the story. At first sight the turntable looks like any other high mass top-heavy table. It does not seem feasible for the massive planer to |
provide a stable foundation for spinning records, and in any case the profile is the wrong way round, especially when you see it being driven by a thread belt. This visual incongruence is of course part of the problem; it should not work, and if it does then it is surely compromised. Well you would be wrong because it does work and whilst its feat of levitation may not be magic the sound it produces is. A few turntables are deserving of the epithet transcription,
i.e. are able to accurately transcribe the received signal and produce a facsimile of the original. The Verdier does just chat. This review has taken an inordinate amount of time and at times confounded my patience with the innumerable permutations available in the process of nailing down the sonic signature of the turntable. In fact I don't think that f have yet got to the bottom of the character of this deck. There can be no question chat a large part of what it does is due to the suspension and the engineering principles employed in its design. Before we get to the legerdemain of the planer we should consider the base on which the planer sits. This consists of a hollow metacrylic plinth into which are inserted three sprung feet chat in turn support three diaphragms on which the top plate |
of the plinth resta. The position of the feet are deliberately sited to balance the fully loaded deck and the levelling of the base is accomplished by adjusting three large boit heads chat protrude through the top. The diaphragma drawing in air, which is audible as you release the plinth, compensate for any downward pressure on the deck. The suspension system on the more expensive rejuvenated Granito version is slightly different in the positioning of the feet and their relationship to the plinth base. Okay, so that's the easy bit. If we look at the other end of the turntable then we are confronted by the massive 16kg platter made out of high-grade aluminium and measuring 60mm deep. To this is bolted the cast iron ring housing one of the two opposed magnets that float it. When the deck was assembled by Graham Tricker, the importer, he used an alignment ring to ensure that the two magnets in their housings were in perfect opposition to each other when the platter was assembled. To create the stability required for the platter when it rotates, an axel carrier, which is bolted to the underneath of the planer, penetrates the centre of the platter. Into this housing an axel spindle goes through the axel carrier and rests on a large adjustable set screw which is bolted to the underside of the plinth. Oil is injected into a chamber at the top of the axel spindle and allowed to seep into the space between the axel carrier and the axel spindle to enable the planer to rotate and |
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the fact that the addition of a turntable mat and the effects of a clamp all made their presence felt meant that not only did this review seem to take for ages but also the permutations seemed endless. However, throughout these evolutions, one factor remained constant; the player's unerring ability to differentiate one performance from another. I am sure that there will be considerable debate about whether to clamp and/or mat the Verdier. A number of people have said to me that a mat, especially the lead composite Verdier mat, closes down the sound, restricts the sound stage and that the leading and trailing edges of notes are lost. Well that may well be the case with whatever arm and cartridge they were using but in the set up here this certainly wasn't so. The Verdier mat changed the presentation of large scale performances from a wide wall of sound with a strikingly diffuse presentation to one in which you were able to discern the instrumental positions, and where the solo instruments were correctly scaled. The Vivaldi pieces without the mat were initially impressive, the notes filling out the stage and appearing as if created by a large ensemble. It is only by reference to the sleeve notes that one realises that there were only six instrumentalists. The mat and clamp readdress the errors of scale and notes take on their rightful shape and precision. In The Tube the mat resolved the resin tones of the strings and exercised control over the high levels of energy latent in the violins, which can so often sound hard and strident when they should not be. In Handel's Chaconne in G Major one could actually feel the pressure exerted |
by the pianist as he phrased the notes. The same was evident in the piano playing of Kabi Laretei's Mozart Fantasia in C minor. Here the use of the mat established the relationship between the
right and the left hand whereas without it, it was vague and diffuse with a lack of control and a large forward impressive soundstage. With vocals we see the same ability of the mat to present the timbral accuracy of the singing of Ute Lemper and Amanda Mcbroom. There is an intimacy and warmth in their vocal projection, which draws you into their emotional experience. By removing the mat their voices lost some of the midrange fullness that gives expression to their performance. I am sure that given the numerous permutations possible with the. turntable/arm/clamp/mat etc. that one is able to voice the system to suit whatever preferences one has and the tonal balance of the equipment. However, with its honesty to the recording, the Verdier/Audiocraft combination is a ruthless exposer of the rest of the system. The weakest link will be presented in all its failings and will have to be addressed if the full potential of this combination is to be realised. The originality of its design, commitment to its initial concept and the apparent simplicity of its engineering and operation have provided a remarkably neutral transcription base on which to ring |
the tonearm changes. With its battery power supply, the right support for the record, and favoured tone arm the Platine Verdier would provide the ideal locus of any analogue system. Anybody looking for a final turntable can't afford to ignore the performance of this Record Player. TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS Turntable Speeds : 33 and 45 Tonearms : Two Dimensions (WxHxD): 390 x 23 x 410 (turntable only) Weight: 65 kg Battery PSU: £800 Lead loaded rubber record mat: £120 Tonearm Type: Damped Dual-pivot
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Platine Verdier Revisited
by Peter Russell
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There is always a danger in revisiting somewhere you once knew in the past. You know, going back home after a long absence, driving a car you once owned or going back to a favoured restaurant. Memories are a mixture of filtered past events and expectations of the present. I am normally hesitant of reliving some-thing I previously enjoyed because I am so often disappointed. In this case I will have to revise that view In Issue 12 I commented that 1 had not really got to the bottom of the character of the Platine Verdier. Two turntables later and after reinstalling my Well Tempered Signature in a new but smaller listening room has meant that I have had the opportunity to revisit the Verdier and listen to it with a variety of differently priced cartridges. 1 think that by now I have a fairly clear view as to what this exercise in levitation is all about. Let me first of all make a comparison; over the last couple of months I had the opportunity courtesy |
of a friend, to listen to a Forsell Reference in my system. Now there is not a lot of similarity between that turntable and the Verdier is there? You would be right and you would be wrong. What they do have in common is a remarkable ability to portray the rhythm and timing in a performance as well as a total
absence of grain. There is one other thing that they do well; the music seems to pour out of the platter. It is effortless and fluid. This latter quality is something that all `air bearing' decks seem to share. It is the antithesis of the digital age where the episodic |
experience is more important than the complete event: Where we listen to music as a sound bite rather than as a performance. The Verdier present, you with a performance, encouraging you to just place the
record on the platter and then forget that you are listening to a mechanical device. Its naturalness is its overwhelming characteristic. This artlessness is demonstrated in its ability not to impose artefact between you and the music. If you have a poorly recorded LP then it will be presented as being poorly recorded with all |
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the multi-miked imbalances. If the strings shriek at you it is because that is how they are. This deck will not make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. There are number of recordings that 1 have enjoyed listening to in the past but having heard them again on the Verdier, 1 am no longer so sure that I will be as keen to spin them again. Some appear thin and harsh whilst others have lost the body and substance one remembers from previous listening sessions on other turntables with other arms and cartridges. This fidelity to the source was commented on in the original review and implies that the turntable does not have a particular character, which would be tempting fate too much. If anything, it is too revealing, which is why it is so easy to `tune' this deck with the choice of tonearm. For me, listening to the different timbral contrasts of the Cremona violins on the Fone album was a real delight, just as dragging out my Billy Holiday albums, both the originals and the |
remastered ones was both a joy and a disappointment. Not all the
recordings were capable of portray that plaintive pathos in her
performance, or her emotional intensity. At one point 1 succumbed to going
through my Albert Lee albums on both the Verdier, the Well Tempered and
the Forsell, using the same cartridge on each turntable supported on a BCD
stand. All three turntables have their strengths and this is not the place
to present a detailed comparison. 1 will say that the Verdier's strengths
lay in Usability to capture the raw energy and sheer attack as Lee went
through his numbers. The distinction between nylon, steel and gut strings
on the various guitars was more obvious and the presentation of the energy
spectrum and authority and control over the music meant that the
supporting percussive and stringed instruments created a richer and more
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the preferred analogue partner in any set up. This is not only dangerous, it leaves too many assumptions about the reviewer and the equipment unexplored. The committed analogue fanatic has a bewildering choice of record decks to select from at the moment and is probably spoilt for choice. All 1 can say is that in all the various system combinations, arms and cartridges that I have been able to listen to with this deck, it has a fundamental fidelity to the source that will make you reappraise your albumcollection. But if you are thinking of buying one, don't forget to factor in the hidden cost of ownership-all the extra albums you'll be buying as a result.
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Translation of Klaus Renner's Kommentar - Meine Liebe To my darling,This write up is a love declaration to analogic technical and to an apparatus who initiates me into out standing HI-FI a love declaration to VERDIER'S Turntable - this to inform you. When we live 1O years with an HI FI apparatus, we are not able to write a paper without emotion, but perhaps I will succeed in explaining why this turntable is so incredibly attractive and why my " HI FI system " was built around it. Let us make a turn back of 1O years : it was the age of the birth of CD idea and concerning the audiophile analogic turntable, we were discussing around direct driving and belt driving. I labored very hard to optimize a direct drive MICRO DDX-1OOO: I had absorbed the plate with a bitumen mass so as to remove its bell-s resonance , and a mural rack was in charge of vibrations insulating. Various Tone arms - GRACE, AUDIOCRAFT and FR handled AUREX and GRADO cartridges. One day I had a phone call from a Belgian distributor to have a meet for an interview. A few weeks later J.C.Verdier came to Munich - on the table of the editorial staff there was a sort of turntable quite different of all I have ever seen before. The English of J.C. was like my French and we were staying for hours discussing of his Turntable somehow or other in 3 languages In spite of communication problems it was, and stays to-day, one of the most important debate I had with an HI FI inventor. In each sentence, in the description of each minor detail, we have a feeling of J.C.Verdier Turntable's love. The engineering called in question again what I have ever seen and yet The Verdier's is to-day unique on a lot of points. But I had a real surprise when I heard it. By chance, at the same time, I had two other turntables, very famous at this time, the COTTER B with a DENON DP 7O cartridge and the WIN. I fastly observed that my coddled MICRO had not any chance facing those 3 challengers. It was the same problem with the COTTER and the WIN who surrendered facing the VERDIER. Their lot was the same as all other turntables who tried to cope musically with the VERDIER's. To-day, 1O years were passed since that memorable talk with J.C Verdier, his turntable whose serial number is 1, is always in my auditorium practically without change. Only two points were modified during this time : the plate cover and the tone- arm base fixation.
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Learning to levitateTECHNOLOGICAL progress ensures that the boundaries of the high en are constantly being redefined, but after a taste of gourmet vinyl hardware, one might well believe that analogue has attained its zenith. Try for size the very unorthodox La Platine turntable, from France's J.C.Verdier. Ah, but no complex techno-gadgetry is involved here; La Platine uses the most rudimentary of scientific principles to minimize friction, that bane of civilization. To banish friction, the bottom half of the turntable's platter is supplemented with a permanent magnet. This magnet is "supported" but another permanent magnet attached to the plinth, with the poles of both magnets facing each other. And as you know, like poles repel, exactly the same principle applied to those futuristic Magnet trains. Voilà! A central spindle keeps the plinth and platter in alignment. The "levitation" platter ensures ultra smooth rotation. An external DC motor, mounted away from the turntables unit, turns the platter via a fine nylon thread (provided generously by the manufacturer). Speed freaks can do either 45 or 33 1/3 rpm on the La Platine. Just slip on your fave LP. Less startling, but engineered to a price, is the single-unit smaller sibling, the Nouvelle Platine, which uses oil-based platter suspension. Intimidatingly, you can mount dual tonearms on either of these exquisite turntables,- the arm-base can also be adjusted to accommodate conventional tonearms of various lengths, or parallel trackers. Awesome, eh ? Ah, price, yes, hold your hearts ! The La Platine is a mere RM33,000, La Nouvelle, an even more enticing RM18,000. You'll have to get your own tonearm though. Vinyl freaks, check the La Platine out (The nouvelle is arriving soon), at Wisma Audio Center (03 262 8034 / 04 890 1366) . We heard it , and life's not the same anymore ... and yes, this sumptuous turntable will be proudly displayed at AV Fest 98 From Newspaper : AUDIOFILE - the Star - June 18 1998 |